Graviteam

The only info I got was from the Graviteam site and was basically copied and pasted from the other sections. Is any info info at all for it yet? And is this considered an expansion or a sequel?

Yes, it's coming soon!


 :P  Sorry, just a little joke (very little) to add posts to a question I think many have.

http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/showthread.php?t=71177&p=1856641&viewfull=1#post1856641

Nice pics, but when I translate the text to English with my browser I get sentences like this one: "And of course danced hopak just looks great ... What is clear is shorter, as always you have all zashibis".  LOL

Any ideas about the release date?  I will buy :)

This is too niche for me I'm afraid. Seems to be more for a Russian audience. I really have to have an interest to some degree or knowledge of a War.

But Japanese tanks are very cool  ;)

Really..... it will have the Achtung Panzer gameplay so why discourage them from releasing it on the Western Market? Plus, the Battle of Khalkhin Gol is pretty interesting and if you dont know about it, read more about it. This is one of the reasons why I like Steel Armor because I can learn about new wars and what happen and how big the battles were.

It will be a first day pick up for this Westerner for sure. I love the idea of out of the ordinary battles.

Of course I'd also like to see some Western Front games. Eventually we might see the chocolate eaters in Achtung Panzer I would hope.

One of the larger tank battles in history, I believe?  And commanded by Zhukov, to entirely relevant to the later WW2 experience...

Looks really interesting.  I take it is is a seperate game?  can anyone confirm this?  I will invest in this/ :)

Yes, I believe it's a new game - the next generation on the AP series.  So, not a DLC, in other words.

I thought this would be a tanksimulator, not so?

No. same as APOS.

Damn thought for sure it was ment to be a successor to Steel Fury ???

Not trying to put them off, I'm sure they are aware it wont be as big a seller as APOS. My obsessions lie with WW1 and WW2 (West front WW1, East front WW2). I have a slight interest recently for Ancient warfare. When younger obsessed with Vietnam. Mild interest in Korean War aswell.

As for trying it out, well I have abit of an interest in WW2 West front, however on the whole even if I love the series like Combat mission I barely ever play it as the front\campaign holds only a little interest.

I'd only buy East front titles with regards to this engine. Any other front or war I'd probably barely play it. Learnt my lesson with CMBN, love the game engine, bored of the theater so it hardly gets played. Also with the recent announcements over at battlefront and the prospect of future east front titles here my tactical wargaming needs have been met for awhile.

I am surprised they are bringing out in the West as even the much requested Steel fury add on never made it...are you listening Graviteam...however I'm pleased they are making games covering lesser known battles. Just not for me at all. I have difficulty reading about any war let alone one I have zero interest in. However thats something I've been struggling with fr awhile. Just can't get into reading these days.

I havent played Steel Fury, but Im pretty sure Steel Armor is a sequel to that but just not WWII so maybe they will release another Steel series game set during WWII after this game.

Theres was talk early on about maybe making a tank sim out of it as well.  Who knows.  I don't know......running over stuff in a t26 would be fun.   :P

Nomonhan was actually a really intersting battle.  Don't short change it simply because its not ww2.  A know a certain Soviet general that got his start here.  Everything later was pretty much based on what he did here.  Actually I would put it squarly in WW2.  After this japan really did not want to deal with the Soviets and squarely turned their attention to the pacific.  The far eastern Red Army got blooded and a couple years later stood a MUCH better chance when they went up against the Germans...and even went on the offensive for a bit.  Then again I would also put the Winter War in WW2 as well.  The Spanish civil war was like the coming attractions of WW2. 

With Stalin being a fruit cake purge guy being way way away from the flag pole is where any good high ranking officer that did not want to be in a shallow grave somewhere would want to be.  Lucky for the Soviets that certain someone was out of sight, out of mind.  Now who am I talking about?   :P

Steel Fury, which is quite good and IMO still holding up well is quite basic compared where APOS and SABOW are now.  Still a freaken great sim however.  In a few ways I think it is better than SABOW.  You can stall the engine out as a driver and is actually quite fun to drive around with manual transmission on in the settings.  SAbow I bet could do it but alot of those really neat little things got removed.  AND you can still stall a tank or AFV with an automatic transmission.  It certainly is not your car.   :P

Good news, not a tank sim, that's a relief.  From what I can make out from the Russian site Night Postman is doing the infantry uniforms, even better news.  This will make a change from all the alternatives and although I am a firm fan of battlefront but their latest news kind of left me flat with oh no not again.

Graviteam go from strengh to strengh and I wish them well in the future, more interesting battles like Nomonhan I say. :)

Are you refering to that wierd ww3 thing?  Come now!  Its the newest fad in gaming industry!  Future uber silly soldier guys N stuff.  Boy oh boy will people be disappointed in 10 years when everyone is still running around with the same stuff and everything status que....I hope.  modern warfare is vary quick and vary lethal if 2 powers are using same up to date tech.  NOT FUN!

Flashman, actually funny enough I was never into modern warfare..yet I actually missed all the toys when I started playing CMBN after buying CMSF on a whim, I enjoyed that much I bough the Marines and Brit module, the Brit module being superb as it evened up the forces more.. So I'm looking forward to shock force 2. Also it isn't going future tech and there is nothing sci fi about shock force 1 either, it's based on 2001 military hardware if I remember correctly. SF 2 I believe is set either around now or the cold war not sure. Anyway again nothing Sci Fi about it.

The Shock Force Inf fighting was more exciting than the Normandy fighting. The armour is way more cat and mouse and nerve racking. Also all the great vehicles to play around with.

Thankfully Shock Force 2 will be more equal in terms of combatants and I can't wait. That with the Italy game and the East front game out in the next year is great news. No matter how good APOS is it's an RTS and alot of the action goes unnoticed, that for me is the beauty of CM and WEGO.

Heck I liked SF too.......but I am a bit confussed that this US vs Russian or whatever deal.  IF it where cold war I would be all over that, but hmmmm near future war thing has me going what!?  Should just end 34 minutes after the fisrt shot with glowing marshmellows or something.  ANd ya.....I will more than likly pick it up damnit.  But Ill be grumbling..   :P

I actually find CMBN to be more lethal than SF, maybe it is the lack of body armor.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battles_of_Khalkhin_Gol  READ that..... ;D


FINE it was Zhukov.........freaken Georgy Zhukov.......ya that guy.  I swore the Soviets had t26's there but according to wikipedia it was bt5 and bt7's. 

If i want to get into the Combat Mission series, which one should I get or should I wait? I tried CMSF but the UI was terrible and the tutorial was non-existent.

They have a demo for each one.

Main tank for this battle is BT-5. T-26s are used in final stage to were cleaned when surrounded Japanese forces (this stage will not be in the game). Also used flame-throwing tanks KhT-26 based on the T-26 chasiss. BT-7 have been used quite a bit.
And most importantly, Soviet tanks with the Japanese have never met. That is, tank vs tank battles will not be  ;D.

Hmmm, Im a little confused on what this means.

Ah.......the two sides tanks never met in battle historically.  So there will not be tank on tank fighting in game.  How bout B10 vs tanks?   :P

I wonder what this means for the game. The AP series is more or less a RTS tank/armor sim with infantry IMO and it is renown for its tank simulation. It even has tank in the name lol so I dont know how this will play into the game. Does this mean that infantry combat is getting a massive overhaul?

I imagine it will be based on known military hardware. Also just as likely for a Nuke War in the near future with this conflict as during the Cold War. Infact NATO during the Cold War really relied on Tac Nukes. The Russians on conventional overwhelming firepower before anyone can react.

Remember Shock Force was near future aswell when released. hey still only used known hardware or hardware that is due out. Thats their policy. So they will go the same path. I do know they are against using weapons that haven't been made yet. As Is aid they did the same with Shock Force.

Well I did find 1 referance to a type97 or whatever getting blown to bits by a bunch of bt7's.