NTA Mod (English version)

[lockie]

By the way, what is the reason of having 150 mbytes of polygon files in the patch? What does that change?

Two compaings  by Kyth were included.
see readme for more details.

[Mistwalker]

Two compaings  by Kyth were included.
see readme for more details.

Hmm. So it's for 38(t) campaign. I think it's arguable decision. I'd rather try to keep polygon files out of the patch. They take too much place (about 130 mb archived) that could be used for something else.

[lockie]

Hmm. So it's for 38(t) campaign.

It's a VERY GOOD campaign! I think it's even better than PzIII campaign. And I'm sure personally, that this campaign is a BEST at the current moment for SF, imho.

I think it's arguable decision.

It's er point.

I'd rather try to keep polygon files out of the patch. They take too much place (about 130 mb archived) that could be used for something else.

Well, I've made my decision(after discussion) and I'm sure that all SF community prefer already prepared EXCELLENT campaign INCLUDED to the very doubtful economize moment of "too much place". But u may have er personal decision - what will be better to everyone.

[frinik]

I agree with Lockie Kyth's missions are excellent, fictitious may be, but excellent nonetheless.If we want to save some space I'd rather that we trim the ME of the plethora of sometimes useless models that we have( Hem like British airplanes for example).

[lockie]

They take too much place (about 130 mb archived) that could be used for something else.

Also, what could be better than existent campaign? Another tanks, spg or whatever? SF - it's a game for the users. So, one excellent campaign - much better then 10 new tanks, which are completely unuseful without appropriate missions, imho.

[Mistwalker]

Well, I've made my decision(after discussion) and I'm sure that all SF community prefer already prepared EXCELLENT campaign INCLUDED to the very doubtful economize moment of "too much place".

Why wouldn't you include the entire mission pack in the next version of the patch then?

Also, what could be better than existent campaign? Another tanks, spg or whatever?

In this case - the first should be the things that change visuals in the vast quanity of missions and make fixes. That's why it's called the "patch".

[Mistwalker]

If we want to save some space I'd rather that we trim the ME of the plethora of sometimes useless models that we have( Hem like British airplanes for example).

I second that. Maybe it's already the time to reupload the enture UU as Dec. 2012 Ultimate Update (and include arguable polygon files there too). The only problem is there are some missions that may use some of those planes.

[lockie]

Why wouldn't you include the entire mission pack in the next version of the patch then?

Coz it's already included into November  

In this case - the first should be the things that change visuals in the vast quanity of missions and make fixes. That's why it's called the "patch".

Patch means, first of all - a comfort for the users, but if u've another point, I don't mind.

[Mistwalker]

Coz it's already included into November

I mean this pack: http://graviteam.com/forum/index.php?topic=10934.0
I can't see where it's included in the November patch. 

Patch means, first of all - a comfort for the users, but if u've another point, I don't mind.

It's not "another point", it's a common definition. The major role of videogame "patch" is to fix the problems and update functionality of the software. Check the meaning of the word.

[lockie]

I mean this pack: http://graviteam.com/forum/index.php?topic=10934.0
I can't see where it's included in the November patch. 

There are a couple reasons, why this pack(2.0) wasn't included into UpdNov2012(NTA):
1. It's a compilation, not a campaign.
2. I don't have permission of all authors to include it into UpdNov2012(NTA). I've permission from ALL authors to include their missions EXACTLY into Mission Pack 2.0. (Also I've permission to make translation into english).
Any questions?

It's not "another point", it's a common definition. The major role of videogame "patch" is to fix the problems and update functionality of the software. Check the meaning of the word.

OK, then make up er mind I would be pleased together with a famous SF community to have a look on the "common definition"

[Kyth]

Thanks for the support, guys!

Much appreciated!

[Mistwalker]

I don't have permission of all authors to include it into UpdNov2012(NTA).

Would you include it in the patch if you'd have the permission? At least partially?

would be pleased together with a famous SF community to have a look on the "common definition"

Just google it or look in any dictionary. Oxford for example: http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/patch?q=patch.
Check N6.

[lockie]

Would you include it in the patch if you'd have the permission?

No.

At least partially?

No.

Just google it or look in any dictionary. Oxford for example: http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/patch?q=patch.
Check N6.

I didn't make update for the oxford dictionaries     I've made it for the SF community!

[Mistwalker]

No.

Why not?  There are many good missions.

I didn't make update for the oxford dictionaries     I've made it for the SF community!

You should've called it  "lockie's SF addon" or something like that then.

[lockie]

Why not?  There are many good missions.

I've already answered. I recommend u to use PM.

You should've called it  "lockie's SF addon" or something like that then.

For this unnecessary personal "advice" I recommend u to use PM.

[frinik]

I second that. Maybe it's already the time to reupload the enture UU as Dec. 2012 Ultimate Update (and include arguable polygon files there too). The only problem is there are some missions that may use some of those planes.

Well that should be easy to fix simply replace the British ones with Soviet ones through the ME before trimming it!.

[frinik]

Hem Gentlemen Truce , Cease Fire!

A couple of suggestions; what not have missions pack 1.0C and 2.0 C combined into one pack called in all originality 3.0 C ? That would mean 60 missions....


I think having a Super Update combining the November update patch  with Lockie's new models and improvements and those mentioned in Mistwalker's planned December Update and incorporating a Mission pack 3.0C ( if the authors are willing to grant permission of course) would make sense for all SF fans and perhaps incorporating Rend's Barbarossa canpaign in addition to Kyth's 2 campaigns....I , for one , would be willing to contribute with trasnlations, testings, new sounds whatever I can do... What do you think?
 8)

[lockie]

A couple of suggestions; what not have missions pack 1.0C and 2.0 C combined into one pack called in all originality 3.0 C ?

I've report that d/l time of MP 2.0 is 6-7 hours 

That would mean 60 missions....

Actually, ~70

[Anddy]

After installing the update appeared nasty bug - some trees are very much increased in size.

[lockie]

After installing the update appeared nasty bug - some trees are very much increased in size.

Funny picture!  8)
Delete the next folder:
...Steel Fury - Kharkov 1942\data\k42\loc_rus\levels\levels\obj_cfg\flora
Delete the next file:
...Steel Fury - Kharkov 1942\data\k42\loc_rus\levels\levels\obj_cfg\flora.engcfg

Enclose picture of installation through JSGME.