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Sperber
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« on: March 13, 2016, 04:11:14 PM »

Please, How can i command an airsupport ?
I place a Air Spotter at the Map and play it...

But no airsopprt ;( i test all sorts of commands...
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« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2016, 05:12:35 PM »

Sorry for my bad English

In the operational mode ( 2 D ), make a crtl + LMB on the air spotter, or on the company commander
Check in the right ide, you have a supply strategie option, left click on it until you have reinf support.
Then in tactical mode ( 3 D ) you can have an air spotter with target zone.
Same for the off map arty

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« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2016, 07:15:48 PM »

I am in the 3rd turn of the first campaign as Germans, reinforced every command platoon with 'support' strategy but have yet to see any air support, I watched a video yesterday and a guy had stukas arrive during the first battle of the first turn, he didn't call it in or set up a target zone, the planes just appeared, he was surprised to see them in fact.

I am 8 or 9 battles in without a single plane making an appearance.

Is it a random mechanic?
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« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2016, 07:53:19 PM »

thx zeufman, i can test it in my mission Wink

@wildman, you must find the Air spotter Squad...if you can not find, he is not even there...
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« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2016, 07:59:21 PM »



@wildman, you must find the Air spotter Squad...if you can not find, he is not even there...

I checked, you are correct, there is no air spotter squad on the entire battlefield, this is in spite of the fact that I reinforced 10 - 12 platoons with support strategy.

I have to say this seems a little strange, either air support was available during this operation or it was not, I understand the new system does not allow us to cherry pick which units join specific platoons, but surely the game should ensure that an air spotter is included some place? So the Germans will have no air support for this campaign, but next time maybe they will... this doesn't feel very 'Graviteam' to me.
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« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2016, 07:59:33 PM »

Where is my air spotter, may be in tanks.....no
Where...where... may be in infantry.... no

Oh wait maybe in Air support!





Yes
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« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2016, 08:09:23 PM »

Where is my air spotter, may be in tanks.....no
Where...where... may be in infantry.... no

Oh wait maybe in Air support!


Yes
Yes, this is my point, I don't have an air spotter anywhere on the operational map, I checked every platoon TO BE SURE, and there is no specialist air support platoon with plane icon like you show in your helpful screenshots there either.

Where is my air spotter, may be in tanks.....no
Where...where... may be in infantry.... no

Oh wait maybe in Air support, but WHERE IS MY AIR SUPPORT?
http://imgur.com/3n2Yk6q
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« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2016, 09:02:19 PM »

Yes, this is my point,

No, it's a Sperber's topic  Grin
And his point
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« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2016, 09:20:32 PM »

Yes, this is my point,

No, it's a Sperber's topic  Grin
And his point


Indeed, the last time I came here for help my topic was locked because 'too similar to existing topics', now I think 'join another topic it's the same subject' but ... yeah, never works out for me asking here...  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2016, 10:09:42 PM »

Yes, this is my point,

No, it's a Sperber's topic  Grin
And his point


Indeed, the last time I came here for help my topic was locked because 'too similar to existing topics', now I think 'join another topic it's the same subject' but ... yeah, never works out for me asking here...  Roll Eyes

I do find it is hard to get a straight answer without riddles sometimes also. 
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« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2016, 10:32:51 PM »



I do find it is hard to get a straight answer without riddles sometimes also.  

It's very bizarre, it's a simple question that they know the answer to, but instead of helping they prefer to waste the OP's time, their own time and the time of anyone else who has the same issue with silly replies that help nobody.  Embarrassed

I love their games but they are really anti the customer sometimes, a simple answer to a simple question and everyone is happy, what is to be gained by ignoring the question? only they know.  Huh?
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« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2016, 12:36:12 AM »

Oh wait maybe in Air support, but WHERE IS MY AIR SUPPORT?



Are you kidding me?
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« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2016, 04:27:57 AM »

Why so sarcastic Andrey?  It really wasn't so obvious why the air support squad was not showing on the map.  Why do you have to go out of your way to try to make the guy feel like an idiot?  Maybe you're not cut out for this customer service stuff. 
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« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2016, 05:17:43 AM »

Well to be fair his specialty isn't  customer service and I've never met a programmer with excellent PR skills.

But I do want to know the steps for the planes to get from where they are in andrey's picture to the battle field too.

Also tail gunners shooting at the ground, is that actually a thing?
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« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2016, 06:56:38 AM »

Well to be fair his specialty isn't  customer service and I've never met a programmer with excellent PR skills.
Developpers are sarcatics when you can find a reply yourself Wink
For example:
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But I do want to know the steps for the planes to get from where they are in andrey's picture to the battle field too.
Look at the tutorial Wink
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andrey12345
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« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2016, 10:18:38 AM »

Why so sarcastic Andrey?  It really wasn't so obvious why the air support squad was not showing on the map.  Why do you have to go out of your way to try to make the guy feel like an idiot?  Maybe you're not cut out for this customer service stuff. 

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« Reply #16 on: March 14, 2016, 11:31:41 AM »

So when air support is available, they will just show up in the next battle without player needing to do something?  You don't need to assign the air support to particular units?
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« Reply #17 on: March 14, 2016, 03:34:40 PM »

Sometimes I think it's a language issue...
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« Reply #18 on: March 14, 2016, 03:38:47 PM »

Well to be fair his specialty isn't  customer service and I've never met a programmer with excellent PR skills.



Well to be even more fair, he should let Krabb handle those duties then.  He at least can be polite.

It's time they realized that they are in a customer service business.  Here is a customer that bought the game and presumably put money in their pockets and he has a serious question that gets answered like that.  If somebody has a question about your game the chances are that you have not made the information clearly available or obvious.  Just because you have spent two years developing the game and know it inside out doesn't mean that a new comer will find it so obvious.  Patience is needed and if you don't have it it's better not to respond.
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« Reply #19 on: March 14, 2016, 03:53:46 PM »

You always get an answer. If the question is too simple, Andrey mocks you, but you get an answer from him or other developer or player.

You need to realize that you are in a technical forum here, not a marketing forum. Steam forums are more marketing than here. Nobody know this forum, only hardcore gamers.

I prefer this forum, with a high degree of technicality, rather than Steam forum with a lot of newbies with their "too simple" questions. And I like the philosophy of Andrey.
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