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« Reply #20 on: August 10, 2018, 07:52:31 PM »

But why not treat Steel Armor like graviteam tactics? Have a base game then release tank,map and scenario addons to help boost replay ability and variety couple that with a arma like editor and you'll have something that imo might generate enough interest to make a good profit off of. 
 
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« Reply #21 on: August 11, 2018, 01:34:18 PM »

It is nor tanksim neither tactics.
Both of the currently living tanksims SA and SB, this is more tactic than tanks. So historically, tactics are an integral part of any actions of the tank forces.
But of course fans of tank-shooters do not understand this Smiley
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« Reply #22 on: August 11, 2018, 01:37:24 PM »

But why not treat Steel Armor like graviteam tactics? Have a base game then release tank,map and scenario addons to help boost replay ability and variety couple that with a arma like editor and you'll have something that imo might generate enough interest to make a good profit off of. 
 

Graviteam is small company, lack of resources to actively support more than ~1.5 games. Tank simulator objectively have fewer players.
And it is not yet clear that this situation has somehow been corrected.
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« Reply #23 on: August 11, 2018, 09:37:54 PM »

Graviteam is small company, lack of resources to actively support more than ~1.5 games. Tank simulator objectively have fewer players.
And it is not yet clear that this situation has somehow been corrected.

I guess the marketing department also has a lack of resources also. I find it sad that you guys made such a great game that receives so little attention.
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« Reply #24 on: August 11, 2018, 10:26:56 PM »


I guess the marketing department also has a lack of resources also. I find it sad that you guys made such a great game that receives so little attention.

Graviteam do not have a marketing department. In Graviteam 4 people work, including chiefs.
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« Reply #25 on: August 12, 2018, 04:33:20 PM »

Both of the currently living tanksims SA and SB, this is more tactic than tanks.
It doesn't matter how do you call the game - it won't change anything, because nor tanksim-fun neither tactics-fun don't understand it Cheesy

Graviteam is small company
It doesn't matter equally. Is Graviteam campaign small or big or half-medium or quarter-huge, etc. Who cares? We understand that you can't support SA, but SA Community can! Community has a countless time to develop the game. Unfortunately, you don't want to help even with decoding of the config entries. That's a question Smiley
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« Reply #26 on: August 12, 2018, 05:32:16 PM »

We understand that you can't support SA, but SA Community can! Community has a countless time to develop the game.
These are empty words. If the community can, then why does not make mods for this game?
This is called a community can not. So then it wants help from Graviteam. And then we return to what I wrote - Graviteam is a small company and it has to choose which game to support and which does not.
But you can philosophize further. But this will not change anything, the fact remains.


Unfortunately, you don't want to help even with decoding of the config entries. That's a question Smiley
But why do you need my help, in the post above you wrote that "you can't support SA, but SA Community can", and then " you don't want to help even with decoding of the config entries."
So I did not understand how about "community can"? Why are you asking for help from the developers?  Huh?

You would first decide on the logic of your posts. At least in one post, do not change the meaning to the opposite  Facepalm.
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« Reply #27 on: August 12, 2018, 11:39:48 PM »

These are empty words. If the community can, then why does not make mods for this game?
This is called a community can not. So then it wants help from Graviteam. And then we return to what I wrote - Graviteam is a small company and it has to choose which game to support and which does not.
But you can philosophize further. But this will not change anything, the fact remains.

But why do you need my help, in the post above you wrote that "you can't support SA, but SA Community can", and then " you don't want to help even with decoding of the config entries."
So I did not understand how about "community can"? Why are you asking for help from the developers?  Huh?

You would first decide on the logic of your posts. At least in one post, do not change the meaning to the opposite  Facepalm.

But didn't whukid and Flashburn make mods for the game? Then you had the T-34 mod and what about the playable BMP mod someone made I played with it for a little while but lost the files when switching pc. For a community to make mods there needs to be some help from devs to help people get started. Look at Arma for example, yes they have multiple studios and many employees but if it wasn't for the modding scene then that game would have been dead by now and the devs know it that's why the have an entire wiki full of commands and functions everything some one needs to make a mod or a script. All it takes is one guy from you're team to start a wiki like that and add one or two entries a day.
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« Reply #28 on: August 13, 2018, 02:26:12 PM »

These are empty words. If the community can, then why does not make mods for this game?
As I told before - it doesn't matter how many times you call Graviteam campaign as a small, half-small, a very small... whatever. The sentence is: no help - no mods. It's obvious and would be a very strange thing try to find any kind of conspiracy  Wink
Or do you think user has ability to read a machine codes?  Facepalm
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« Reply #29 on: August 13, 2018, 02:59:31 PM »

The sentence is: no help - no mods.

It is obvious that there is "no help" from the fact that few people. And so it's important to have a large company size or not.

Is the chain of 2 terms so difficult to understand?  Facepalm

It's obvious and would be a very strange thing try to find any kind of conspiracy  Wink
Or do you think user has ability to read a machine codes?  Facepalm

No, I think that people who can not understand a simple 2 chain of cause-effect, do not need do mods at all.

Gastello220 in the next topic nothing prevented to mod the T-72 BiF, without a help of developers, source codes and all of that. And do it at a level better than in the stock game.
What once again shows that the problem is not in the help of developers, but in the absence of aspiration.
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« Reply #30 on: August 14, 2018, 07:33:37 PM »

It is obvious that there is "no help" from the fact that few people.
That's clear! Why did you call such strange things like "Graviteam is a very small campaign/few people", if you know everything? Smiley "no -help - no mods" it's a very obvious. Please, don't ask more. SA Community is not going to do the strange and unreasonable things.

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No, I think that people who can not understand a simple 2 chain of cause-effect, do not need do mods at all.
The answer is, if you are not understand the strange things, which devs requests from us, then you are wrong. OK, I'm an usual user and want to live in the current reality, where I don't need to read the machine codes and unknown code sentences Smiley

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What once again shows that the problem is not in the help of developers, but in the absence of aspiration.
SA Community is always wrong. That's the Graviteam motto  Facepalm
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