ME question

[frinik]

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[lockie]

Just checked out a command "ai_stop" and I may say - it almost didn't work.
i.e.
if tank is under fire then ai becomes unpredictable (mostly it goes forward/back, thus can't shoot precisely)
code sample:

Code:

sc_ger_01()
{

	ext, ai_move, ger_tac_01, false, -1, 40;
	ext, ai_stop;
	ext, loop_tr, tr_sov_lv;
	ext, ai_move, tr_p_01, false, -1, 40;
}

if tank(in may case vw-82) moves at the normal conditions - no fire at all, then ai obeys to script "ai_stop"
code sample:

Code:

sc_btr_01()
{

	ext, ai_move, ger_tac_02, false, -1, 15;
	ext, ai_stop;
	ext, loop_tr, tr_sov_lv;
	ext, ai_move, ger_tac_01, false, -1, 15;
}

Here's a sample: http://www.4shared.com/rar/0x5_3wY2/000_check.html

Conclusion: no need to use command "ai_stop" at all, if a unit is under fire. Instead it use "wait_tr". Use command "ai_stop" only in some a VERY rare cases. Well, I can't give u a hint what types of these cases are

[Kyth]

The tactical AI will take over whenever there's enemy in sight,

Could you let us know how to use the 'ai_loadscript' command?

[lockie]

Could you let us know how to use the 'ai_loadscript' command?

I never used this command I may guess that this command is designed for the common case to avoid the same block code writing.

[fabianfred]

I made this topic into a pdf file...download here..
http://www.4shared.com/office/X6-uT2n0/SFME.html

[lockie]

And here is a very interesting and non-documented sequence of the commands.
Task:
- force tank to go along the road to the contour `point_01`.
Here's a simple code, where first line is mode `move along road`, second - appointment contour `point_01`.

Code:

ext, ai_setstate, 0, 0x1;
ext, ai_move, point_01, false, -1, 15;

BUT this code doesn't work! AI will come to the contour, but not on the road.
To force him go exactly on the road, u MUST specify a command `line up`(column, line, free). Let it be `free`.
Finally:

Code:

ext, ai_form, 0;
ext, ai_setstate, 0, 0x1;
ext, ai_move, point_01, false, -1, 15;

It's simple, but I was abt madness, coz I didn't understand why this stupid AI didn't want to go `along the road`???  Now, I know how to do that 

[fabianfred]

I had this same problem yesterday...how to get vehicles to follow the road and cross that bridge of yours ...(making as mission on your map)

I was using the column setting... I'll try yours now..

[lockie]

I was using the column setting... I'll try yours now..

`Free`line up is a kinda universal formation.

[lockie]

I started to play with a command `ai_leave`. If u type simply:

ai_leave;

then ONLY commander will leave a tank, but I can't figure out how to force all other crew members put them out of the tank.

[lockie]

Today I'd like to share with u friends, a very interesting script!
As u know for some reasons a troops were removed from the tank T-34/85. Suppose, it happend after `UU mode` was released. Anyway, `T-34/85+troops` didn't work properly. So, I decided to fix it.
There are: a tank T-34/85+6 soldiers (desant).
A TASK:
1. pick up 6 soldiers on the armor
2. move to the point #1
3. drop out 6 soldiers
4. move to the point #2

In theory everything must works, but AI of the troops didn't want to come to the point #2 after drop out. After a couple of experiments, I forced only a commander (sergant) of the troops come to the #2, but it wasn't satisfied me. Then I decided to cheat AI
Instead 6 soldiers, I wrote down there were 7! It does: 5 members of crew plus 7 troopers of desant (one trooper - fake). And it worked
Here is a mission-test for everybody who interested to invent smth. new in the script. Re-d/l a new fix_SPM(NTA_1.6)_01.1.

Recommended installation:
- SPM 2.0
- SPM (NTA) 1.6
- FIX_SPM(NTA)1.6_01.1
- Desant_T-34-85

Add the next entry:
desant_t3485, desant_misn, 1, 0, desant_t3485.jpg, txt_cit_01, 30, txt_desant_misn, hist_map_teach, levels\levels\cm_users\desant_t3485.level;

to the file:
...\data\k42\loc_rus\levels\LEVELS\camp\user_camp.engcfg


PS
I'd recommend to have a look this mission in the editor, but of course u may play it as a usual one
Don't forget to press a knob "to machines" to drop out a desant at the point #1.

[fabianfred]

nice little mission ... and the smoke was OK...but could do with being more.

[lockie]

nice little mission ...

Thanks
I've made one trick in this mission. There are hidden tank rkka_mtann4(T-34/85 with 11 places), which is absent in the editor and a separate group of the soldiers (6 units - desant).
The trick does that tank and group works together as a whole unit!
It does that we can make a mission kinda `Saving Private Ryan`;)
For example, somewhere a platoon of infantry fight against german troops and they need a help badly! And a soviet command decided to send a group of tanks to save and pick up a very urgent person - general!(or just ordinary group from 6 soldiers). After, get back to the start point. If general survived (or at least one soldier) then mission completed

[fabianfred]

How do we map a key to allow ascent and descent from vehicle?

and the Sherman in that mission has no tracks!!!

[lockie]

How do we map a key to allow ascent and descent from vehicle?

There are commands:
ai_enter
ai_exit

and the Sherman in that mission has no tracks!!!

It's funny, coz Sherman should not `ve been there
Check out the line:
usr_tnk_02, rkka_mtann4, ger_p_05, -1, 2, sc_usr_t_3485d, 1, 1, 0.7, 0.6, 1.0, 0x2, rkka_11_guard, 0.0;

PS
PM me.

[lockie]

In SF there is an old bug (hex flag), when u can't place properly a soviet artillery.
There are some hints, which have to put manually in the script.
i.e.
sov_min_01, rkka_mtbat_med, sov_pos_min_0, -1, 2, dummy, 1, 1, 0.8, 0.7, 1.0, 0x1, rkka_comp_1, 0.0;
0x1 - remove contour after fill up
0x2 - group in one contour
0x4 - unit in the trench
0x5 - remove contour after fill up, unit in the trench
Flag 0x5 is more preferable, coz unit thinks he stays in the trench, thus - don't move.

[lockie]

Well, actually I've managed to fix this bug and now - nomore manual script editing
The error was in the "1", it must be "0".
i.e.
This is wrong entry:
rkka_lgun2,txt_med_lgun2_rkka,%SIDE_RUSSIAN%,txt_med_gr_aa_artillery_rkka,1,0,,,gunaa,;

This is right entry:
rkka_lgun2,txt_med_lgun2_rkka,%SIDE_RUSSIAN%,txt_med_gr_aa_artillery_rkka,0,0,,,gunaa,;

Now all soviet artillery is available for the feature in the editor - "remove contour after fill up". This fix will be included in the SPM (NTA) 1.7 version.


PS
It took only five years to fix this bug

[fabianfred]

One thing I was wondering about....
the minefields you can put on a map ...do they explode?

[lockie]

the minefields you can put on a map ...do they explode?

YEAP! But mostly a mines effects a tracks and nothing else, sometimes a gunsight.
I placed a minefield in the polygon `sherman_nt`. Here is a source files:
http://www.4shared.com/rar/0TT7RlUb/sherman_nt.html

Place folder `shermant_nt`:
...\data\k42\loc_rus\levels\envs\

[frinik]

Mines are not really effective right now. However you can tinker with their damage settings in the common res file and probably make them more lethal if required....

[fabianfred]

Mines are not really effective right now. However you can tinker with their damage settings in the common res file and probably make them more lethal if required....

That would be good.... I tried them out....you have to place each mine in a spot...no area coverage...am I correct?