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lockie
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« on: May 29, 2011, 09:50:56 AM »

I'd like to suggest to release a special pack missions, which will be organized on the base of the new addon SPM1.5 NTA1.3.
Addon SPM1.5 NTA1.3 transformed into NTA and today it has index 1.8.

Download Mission Pack 1.2.

Installation order: (through JSGME)

1. Sound Mod (NTA) 1.1 compilation of the sounds, which adjusted to the same format: 44kHz, 16bit, mono.
2. Missions pack v1.2
3. NTA 1.8 full(beta) partI, partII
4. MayUpd_2014
5. Any weather mod (optional)

There are 29 missions available.
01. ShakhovoII (T-34 1943)...................by Stone2009, adjusted by lockie
02. T-38 Tank-Scout.............................by lockie
03. Hold On Kovalkovo (StugIII F)............by deviator, adjusted by lockie
04. Jagdpanther: Over The Top!...............by lockie
05. T-28: Onslaught!.............................by lockie
06. SU-100 the beast............................by lockie
07. v.Kuhari (SU-152)...........................by deviator
08. T-35 In Attack!...............................by lockie
09. v.Zaronovo (SU-85)........................by deviator
10. Kubelwagen hurry up!.......................by lockie
11. v.Kuhari (Brummbar)........................by deviator
12. Fire ground2 (T-35).........................by lockie
13. v.Staroselie (KV-1)..........................by deviator
14. Firing ground (Stug III G)..................by lockie
15. v.Tsotovo (Pz38(t))........................by deviator
16. v.Tsotovo (T-28)............................by deviator, adjusted by lockie
17. Crossing the river (T-34/85)..............by xream
18. Bagration (Pz.V "Panther" D)..............by deviator
19. v.Zaronovo (Marder III).....................by deviator
20. v.Chernogostie (T-34/76)..................by deviator
21. v.Chernogostie (T-34/85)..................by deviator
22. v. Kovalkovo (SU-122).....................by deviator
23. SW of Prokhorovka, July 12, 1943, 13:00 (SU-122)...................by Rends
24. SW of Prokhorovka, July 12, 1943, 13:00 (T-34/76)..................by Rends
25. SW of Prokhorovka, July 12, 1943, 18:00 (T-34/76)..................by Rends
26. SW of Prokhorovka, July 12, 1943, 13:00 (Pz.V "Panther" D).......by Rends
27. SW of Prokhorovka, July 12, 1943, 13:00 (Pz.IV "Tiger").............by Rends
28. SW of Prokhorovka, July 12, 1943, 18:00 (Stug III F).................by Rends
29. SW of Prokhorovka, July 12, 1943, 18:00 (T-70).......................by Rends, adjusted lockie
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« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2011, 10:57:14 AM »

I'd like to suggest to release a special pack missions, which will be organized on the base of the new addon "SPM1.5 NTA1.3".
What mission should be included:
1. 10 mission by Kyth
2. I think mod "desert", 'cause it's always a problem to play vs him.
3. Cherkasskoe_beta, Shahovo_beta by Stone 2009.
4. Some missions by deviator(should be discussed).
5. Some mission of mine (jagdpanther, kubelwagen, t-35, su-100, firing ground1/2(sov/ger))

I'm all in favour of 3, 4 and 5! They need proper translation, though  Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2011, 11:06:34 AM »

And I'm sure there should be "Prokhorovka" by Rend vs additional mission for T-70 against panther/tiger/ferdinand  Grin  8)  Roll Eyes

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Suppose, t-70 were for about 40% of the soviet tanks.
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« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2011, 11:11:45 AM »

And I'm sure there should be "Prokhorovka" by Rend vs additional mission for T-70 against panther/tiger/ferdinand  Grin  8)  Roll Eyes

I'm sure this is a minor quibble, but shouldn't the Prokhorovka mission use the T-34/76 model 1943 as well as the T-70?

And actually the Elefant and Panther tanks were nowhere near the scene,
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« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2011, 11:22:46 AM »

My own opinion.

1)Kyth's 10 missions are a must and should repalce to stock Panzer III campaignwhich is a mere replica of the Panzer IV one.Kyth's missions are much better and should be part of any release! Smiley


2) Lockie's T35e, SU100,and Jagpanther should also be included both because they are good and also allow some of the new models to be played

3) Stone's Shahovo and Cherkasskoye as well.

4)Deviator's Panther/T34/85 missions as single missions.

5) It would be nice to have the T70 in Prokhorovka but not against the Elefant or Panther.If only we had another variant of the Panzer IV!!!!
The Stug III G would  be a natural opponent not to mention Panzer IVF1 and 2 and Panzer III( too bad we don't have the model with schuerzen).The Tiger I would have to be included as they were present....
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« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2011, 12:15:13 PM »

I'm sure this is a minor quibble, but shouldn't the Prokhorovka mission use the T-34/76 model 1943 as well as the T-70?
It's possible to make modification to the mission and replace T-34-76 on T-34-42, but author Rends.
Also I'd like to add mission by deviator for StugIIIF vs KV-1e (I've permission from author for modification) and mission for SU-85.
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« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2011, 04:33:25 PM »

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Suppose, t-70 were for about 40% of the soviet tanks.


In July 1942 possibly but by mid 1943 I don't think so.....The T34 in all its pre t34/85 variants would probably represent 33% with all the other Ts accounting for another 35% and the KVs1,2,85), Land Lease tanks, SUs and trophy tanks the rest.
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« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2011, 04:50:04 PM »

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Suppose, t-70 were for about 40% of the soviet tanks.


In July 1942 possibly but by mid 1943 I don't think so.....The T34 in all its pre t34/85 variants would probably represent 33% with all the other Ts accounting for another 35% and the KVs1,2,85), Land Lease tanks, SUs and trophy tanks the rest.

It was more like 50-30-20, (T-34, T-70, everything else) take a look at these figures:

http://www.armchairgeneral.com/rkkaww2/battles/Kursk/Zamulin_3_ZKB/Zamulin_3_05.htm

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« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2011, 11:14:46 AM »

I'd like to suggest to release a special pack missions, which will be organized on the base of the new addon SPM1.5 NTA1.3.

What missions should be included:
1. 10 mission by Kyth
2. I think mod "desert", 'cause it's always a problem to play vs him.
3. Cherkasskoe_beta, Shahovo_beta by Stone 2009.
4. Some missions by deviator(should be discussed).
5. Some mission of mine (jagdpanther, kubelwagen, t-35, su-100, firing ground1/2(sov/ger))

I think it would be very good to have this mission pack. Excellent idea !!

However I think that the "desert" mod can not be included because activating it would turn most of the game textures into desert textures (maps, tanks, soldiers...). The "desert" mod must be activated just to play the desert missions. When you finish playing them you must desactivate it... Am I right ?


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« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2011, 03:23:43 PM »

  This was true with SP1.4 now with Beta 1.5 I have the missions included in the user-made missions menu and they still have their desert gold colours without tainting the rest of the game models.I think the best solution is to move them into the user_camp folder so they remain permanently in the game without needing to be enabled and disenabled all the time.This seems also to solve the issue of their textures overwriting the game's stock textures.
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« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2011, 03:32:28 PM »

  This was true with SP1.4 now with Beta 1.5 I have the missions included in the user-made missions menu and they still have their desert gold colours without tainting the rest of the game models.I think the best solution is to move them into the user_camp folder so they remain permanently in the game without needing to be enabled and disenabled all the time.This seems also to solve the issue of their textures overwriting the game's stock textures.

Great !!

Very good news !!
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« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2011, 04:28:48 PM »

I don't have all the download links, however if you give them too me I'll merge all the files and make a super-mission pack, complete with readme's and everything
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« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2011, 04:32:56 PM »

Should it be user missions or single?
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« Reply #13 on: May 31, 2011, 04:34:00 PM »

  This was true with SP1.4 now with Beta 1.5 I have the missions included in the user-made missions menu and they still have their desert gold colours without tainting the rest of the game models.I think the best solution is to move them into the user_camp folder so they remain permanently in the game without needing to be enabled and disenabled all the time.This seems also to solve the issue of their textures overwriting the game's stock textures.

Great !!

Very good news !!

Hi, just a bit to say about the Desert Mod
- the missions and maps are totally compatible with the stock game.
- the desert mod skins (desert yellow) apply to the Pz III, Pz IV, StugIII C/D, Sk250, Sk251, Mk2 Matilda and Mk3 Valentine. You might not notice them if you use other tanks, but it's a good idea to install or uninstall them separately.
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« Reply #14 on: May 31, 2011, 04:37:37 PM »

Should it be user missions or single?

I'd just keep it a combination of User-missions, campaigns, and single missions for now...
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« Reply #15 on: May 31, 2011, 08:52:14 PM »

I'd just keep it a combination of User-missions, campaigns, and single missions for now...
OK. Du u've initial missions pack for testing?
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« Reply #16 on: May 31, 2011, 10:17:25 PM »

I'd just keep it a combination of User-missions, campaigns, and single missions for now...
OK. Du u've initial missions pack for testing?

I have some, not all though
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« Reply #17 on: June 01, 2011, 09:25:24 AM »

I have some, not all though
OK, let's have a look Wink
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« Reply #18 on: June 01, 2011, 04:19:19 PM »

MISSIONS (that I have)-

-Rends Prohokova mission
-Kyth's campaign
-Lockie's Stug III F mission
-Lockie's "Hurry up Kubelwagen" mission

MISSIONS (requested)-
-Desert Mod
-Deviator's missions
-Cherkasskoe mission
-Shokovo mission

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« Reply #19 on: June 01, 2011, 04:40:42 PM »

MISSIONS (that I have)-
-Rends Prohokova mission
At this moment, I've a doubts - should we include campaign by Rends in pack?
First: I don't have author permission.
Second: I'd be more interested to see mission vs T-70, but again we need author permission to modify his content.
There's only one mission vs content modification - T-28: in battle (I've created it ~half an year ago) And I'll upload it perhaps today vs some tiny adjustments.

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-Kyth's campaign
OK.
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-Lockie's Stug III F mission
OK.
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-Lockie's "Hurry up Kubelwagen" mission
It needs to be adjusted according to the new content of SPM1.5 NTA1.3(I'll do it soon).

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MISSIONS (requested)-
-Desert Mod
Still under question, coz it needs some additional textures.

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-Deviator's missions
That would be fine! Du u've all of them? Means missions on the polygons: BSSR, BSSR2?
And what about translation into english?

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-Cherkasskoe mission
OK.

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-Shokovo mission
I've my variant to hold on Shakhovo vs a bit complicated script, but I need author permission to modification.
Finally, what I'd like to suggest. What du u think, comrades, if we create a company, let's say "MISSION PACK SPM1.5 NTA1.3" vs all missions devoted to the new technics and remove ability "try". I mean, all missions will be initially opened. User just have to pick up what he really wants.
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