Graviteam
April 25, 2024, 10:57:20 AM *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register  
Pages: [1] 2
  Print  
Author Topic: Possibility of creating a Panzer 38(t) campaign  (Read 21816 times)
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
Kyth
Generalfeldmarschall
*****
Posts: 2044


« on: November 29, 2011, 05:04:55 AM »

 Shocked

Is it possible? Is it possible??

I won't beat around the bush about this,

Yes, it's very very possible  Grin
Logged

"What am I, chopped liver..?"

"Yes."
Kyth
Generalfeldmarschall
*****
Posts: 2044


« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2011, 07:50:14 AM »




Follow the exploits of the "famous" 22nd Panzer division!

This shall not be synthetic adrenaline!  It will be the kidney-produced kind.  Shocked
« Last Edit: November 29, 2011, 08:02:12 AM by Kyth » Logged

"What am I, chopped liver..?"

"Yes."
frinik
Generalfeldmarschall
*****
Posts: 3145


« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2011, 08:09:40 AM »

Kyth you are going downscale!The Panzer 38(t) Grin
Knowing your mission-making talent I am looking forward to that campaign! Wink
Logged
whukid
Generalfeldmarschall
*****
Posts: 1016



« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2011, 01:51:46 PM »

Kyth you are going downscale!The Panzer 38(t) Grin
Knowing your mission-making talent I am looking forward to that campaign! Wink

Panzer 38(t)'s are for losers! We need a Luchs campaign! Cheesy
Logged

Kyth
Generalfeldmarschall
*****
Posts: 2044


« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2011, 01:55:13 PM »

Panzer 38(t)'s are for losers! We need a Luchs campaign! Cheesy

Not so! They shall be the true test your panzer skills.

So stop whining and take your medicine!  Grin
Logged

"What am I, chopped liver..?"

"Yes."
frinik
Generalfeldmarschall
*****
Posts: 3145


« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2011, 03:40:55 PM »

Whukid with the debt crisis threatening the World and the ever more expensive price of fuel I think it's time to show restraint and switch from those gas-guzzling Panzer IIIs and Luchs to a more modest and easy-on-the-fuel Panzer 38(t).We have to do our share and live within our means Grin

As Obama BarraKyth would say " Yes we can but only with a Panzer 38(t)"! Cheesy
Logged
whukid
Generalfeldmarschall
*****
Posts: 1016



« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2011, 10:19:15 PM »

Whukid with the debt crisis threatening the World and the ever more expensive price of fuel I think it's time to show restraint and switch from those gas-guzzling Panzer IIIs and Luchs to a more modest and easy-on-the-fuel Panzer 38(t).We have to do our share and live within our means Grin

As Obama BarraKyth would say " Yes we can but only with a Panzer 38(t)"! Cheesy

hahaha yes! Those lazy Germans and their economy Roll Eyes
Logged

Mistwalker
Oberst
******
Posts: 266


« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2011, 11:37:54 PM »

Yes, it's very very possible

Do you need some historical consultation?  Smiley
Logged
Kyth
Generalfeldmarschall
*****
Posts: 2044


« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2011, 11:51:57 PM »

Do you need some historical consultation?  Smiley

Not at the moment, I'm already doing up the maps and historical description  Smiley

Thanks!
Logged

"What am I, chopped liver..?"

"Yes."
frinik
Generalfeldmarschall
*****
Posts: 3145


« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2011, 02:18:04 AM »

Well Whukid it's the lazy Germans bailing out the "hard working" Italians, Portuguese, Greeks, Spaniards and soon the French.....Anyway a German Europa is far better than a French one ....

What campaign do you have in mind Kyth????Early 1941?
Logged
Kyth
Generalfeldmarschall
*****
Posts: 2044


« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2011, 02:22:50 AM »


What campaign do you have in mind Kyth????Early 1941?

The Battle of the Kerch Peninsula (Operation Bustard Hunt). May 1942.
Logged

"What am I, chopped liver..?"

"Yes."
frinik
Generalfeldmarschall
*****
Posts: 3145


« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2011, 02:27:55 AM »

They still had opanzer 38Ts) in May 1942???BTW I can propose a good map for that campaign.It's Igor Japan's map with what looks like the see and cliffs etc.If oyu are interested I can email the datapak to you???
Logged
Kyth
Generalfeldmarschall
*****
Posts: 2044


« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2011, 02:35:29 AM »

They still had opanzer 38Ts) in May 1942???

I guess that's why they were called the 'hard-luck' division  Smiley

BTW I can propose a good map for that campaign.It's Igor Japan's map with what looks like the see and cliffs etc.If oyu are interested I can email the datapak to you???

Yes, I'd be interested to try out that map, thanks.
Logged

"What am I, chopped liver..?"

"Yes."
Donken
Generalmajor
*
Posts: 460


« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2011, 04:06:02 AM »

Nice Kyth

You can also make it a longer campaign and actually dedicate it to Otto Carius. Hes first tank was Pz38t. And after a few missions with that you can change to Tiger.
Logged

The real heroes are those that never came back.
Kyth
Generalfeldmarschall
*****
Posts: 2044


« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2011, 05:30:40 AM »

You can also make it a longer campaign and actually dedicate it to Otto Carius. Hes first tank was Pz38t. And after a few missions with that you can change to Tiger.

Heh heh nice try, 20th Panzer never went anywhere near Crimea,

No Tigers! No Tigers! Take your Panzer 38(t) medicine straight.  Grin
Logged

"What am I, chopped liver..?"

"Yes."
Kyth
Generalfeldmarschall
*****
Posts: 2044


« Reply #15 on: November 30, 2011, 06:25:32 AM »

By the way, I'd like to bring your attention again, to some recommended changes to the ammunition of the early-war panzers:

Quote:

I've been trying out the early-war German tanks armed with the 50mm L/42 KwK 38 and 37mm KWK38(t)L/42. Sad to say, these guns are badly under-powered using the stock in-game settings.

Let's put it this way: you know they're underpowered when their shells persistently bounce off lightly armoured targets like the T-26, BT-5 and Panzer II  Shocked

I've addressed the situation a little by making the following changes to their ammunition in the 'common_res.engcfg' file:

Quote
PZGR(t)umg_37,0x01,%SHELL_AP%,KWK38(t)L/42,750,42,0.7,0.1,0,1,1,0,0.82,0.008,0.3,8,1,1,0.1,0,1,1,1,expl_gndl*,expl_techl*,expl_buildl*,expl_water*,expl_human*,fly1,0,1500,1,txt_shell_pzgr(t)_37,ap_expl_pat,rico_pat,piece_pat,0,1,1,1,1,0xffff4040,2,1,14,SHELL_MED,SHELLC_MED;
Upped the 'armour-piercing factor' from 0.55 to 0.7, slightly less than the PZGR_37.
Gravity factor changed from 9.81 to 8, consistent with the other shells in the game.
Effective range from 800m to 1500m, same as the Soviet B240 45mm shell.
Reliability changed from 0.8 to 1.


Quote
PZGR_50,0x01,%SHELL_AP%,KWK38,683,40,0.7,0.1,0,1,1,0,2.06,0.01,0.2,8,1,1,0.1,0,1,1,1,expl_gndl*,expl_techl*,expl_buildl*,expl_water*,expl_human*,fly1,0,1500,1,txt_shell_pzgr_50,ap_expl_pat,rico_pat,piece_pat,0,1,1,1,1,0xffff4040,3,1,21,SHELL_MED,SHELLC_MED;
Upped the 'armour-piercing factor' from 0.5 to 0.7, slightly less than the PZGR_37.
Effective range from 800m to 1500m, same as the Soviet B240 45mm shell.


Here's one that I prepared earlier! It's based on the common_res.engcfg for 'NTA 1.4 (Eng)'. You might want to check it out:
http://www.4shared.com/file/Rn-pIb_l/Popguns.html

I just want to emphasize that the guns haven't been suddenly transformed into invincible tank-killers,  Just more competent in dealing with lightly-armoured opposition. Not too much to expect, I hope.   Smiley
If anything, I suspect they're still a tad under-powered, but it's already a substantial improvement. If anyone could fine-tune the settings I'd be grateful,

ps.  I forgot to mention, this affects the Panzer IIIkz and the Panzer 38t.

Unquote

Do give it a try and let me know what you think!
Logged

"What am I, chopped liver..?"

"Yes."
frinik
Generalfeldmarschall
*****
Posts: 3145


« Reply #16 on: November 30, 2011, 07:08:35 AM »

I already have Kyth a while ago, on your advice, and it does make a great deal of difference.I strongly recommend them!Especially when playing Rend's Barbarossa campaign with balance 10....
Logged
Mistwalker
Oberst
******
Posts: 266


« Reply #17 on: November 30, 2011, 04:14:30 PM »

The Battle of the Kerch Peninsula (Operation Bustard Hunt). May 1942.

So it's this one:


If needed I also have a description of how the battle progressed and what types of tanks were participating (the interesting thing  is that there were only 7 T-34 in all tank brigades, but 32 KV-1).

Logged
frinik
Generalfeldmarschall
*****
Posts: 3145


« Reply #18 on: November 30, 2011, 05:27:16 PM »

How many Panzer 38(t)s on the German side?I would guess most tanks were Panzer IIIs and panzer IVF1s?
Logged
Mistwalker
Oberst
******
Posts: 266


« Reply #19 on: November 30, 2011, 10:42:39 PM »

How many Panzer 38(t)s on the German side?I would guess most tanks were Panzer IIIs and panzer IVF1s?

22 Panzer Division by the end of the winter 1942 had 60 Pz. II, 114 38(t) and 20 Pz IV (kz)  and also tank destroyer battalion. Don't know type of the vehicles in this one, prolly Panzerjager. Total losses of 38(t) in May 42 were 116 vehicles, but that's for all divisions.
Logged
Pages: [1] 2
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines
Simple Audio Video Embedder
Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!