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Title: Kolobanov Mission out
Post by: norty72 on January 07, 2012, 07:33:41 AM
Kolobanov mission is available on the Sukhoi forum. The KV1e rocks ;D

Link;

http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/showthread.php?t=49560&page=42

Download link;

http://www.4shared.com/file/bG4wCYfy/Kolobanov_v21.html

Norty  :)

ps
eng text:
http://www.4shared.com/rar/G8UZiQqs/kolobanov_eng_txt.html


Title: Re: Kolobanov Mission out
Post by: lockie on January 07, 2012, 11:01:38 AM
he KV1e rocks ;D
Of course, it rocks against german cans :D But in the mission there're Pz 38(t), though it should be Pz 35(t).
(http://xmages.net/storage/10/1/0/4/f/thumb/thumb_7e7d6e45.jpg) (http://xmages.net/view.php/92577)   (http://xmages.net/storage/10/1/0/0/7/thumb/thumb_225f10ff.jpg) (http://xmages.net/view.php/93295)


Title: Re: Kolobanov Mission out
Post by: Florent on January 09, 2012, 04:39:54 PM
Of course, it rocks against german cans.  But in the mission there're Pz 38(t), though it should be Pz 35(t).

Actually they were Pz38 from 8 th Panzer Division. There were an article about that battle in " Batailles et Blindés " issue 23.


Title: Re: Kolobanov Mission out
Post by: lockie on January 09, 2012, 04:50:56 PM
Actually they were Pz38 from 8 th Panzer Division.
Could u please, give me a link to this article? Also, du u've a documents that 8th Panzer Division lost ~20 Pz38(t) during mentioned period?


Title: Re: Kolobanov Mission out
Post by: Txema on January 09, 2012, 05:15:06 PM
Lockie,

Could you please consider releasing this mission in English?

Thanks !!


Txema


Title: Re: Kolobanov Mission out
Post by: lockie on January 09, 2012, 05:46:09 PM
Could you please consider releasing this mission in English?
I'd those plane, but it was too difficult to make a proper translation. So, now I'm waiting an inspiration to do that :)


Title: Re: Kolobanov Mission out
Post by: frinik on January 09, 2012, 05:49:02 PM
Lockie send it to me translated in Googlish and I'll correct the translation.


Title: Re: Kolobanov Mission out
Post by: lockie on January 09, 2012, 05:52:09 PM
Lockie send it to me translated in Googlish and I'll correct the translation.
OK. I'll do a crude analogy of translation, then send it tu u.


Title: Re: Kolobanov Mission out
Post by: frinik on January 09, 2012, 05:52:55 PM
Deal!


Title: Re: Kolobanov Mission out
Post by: Txema on January 09, 2012, 06:07:08 PM
Wow !

That was very fast. Thank you !!


Txema


Title: Re: Kolobanov Mission out
Post by: frinik on January 09, 2012, 06:33:08 PM
On this forum we mean business! ;D


Title: Re: Kolobanov Mission out
Post by: Florent on January 09, 2012, 07:09:43 PM
http://www.batailles-blindes.com/
Go to anciens numéros and 23 but there is no access to the article. Article by Alexandre Ashuraliev. Article is about 12 pages with plenty of photos, profiles of vehicles of 8th Panzer and KV1 E.


Title: Re: Kolobanov Mission out
Post by: lockie on January 09, 2012, 08:46:48 PM
http://www.batailles-blindes.com/
Go to anciens numéros and 23 but there is no access to the article.
Ok. I got this article, but I've a big doubts about it.
(http://xmages.net/storage/10/1/0/3/5/thumb/thumb_0d939187.jpg) (http://xmages.net/view.php/93357)
1. In fact, Kolobanov fight at the normal KV-1, not KV-1e.
2. There were no any losses as a 20 tanks Pz38(t). Even more, that Kolobanov feat of arms was a soviet propaganda exaggeration.

but I've another link, where u can see that Kolobanov's tank had a combat against 6th Panzer Division(probably 65th battalion).
http://www.tankfront.ru/snipers/ussr/kolobanov_zg.html

In this case from August 20 to September 9 the division did not has an active actions. The loss of 14 tanks in the period from August 23 to September 4 can be explained only by the fact that finally copied those left in the rear of the Soviet troops four tanks, also, 11 tanks, which were counted in the repair on August 23, they could restore only one. In other words, 41 tanks were actually forever lost already due to the state on August 23. Thus, the permanent losses of pz.Kpfw. 35 (t) from June 22 to August 3 were 17 pieces and from August 3 to 23 - actually 24 pieces, from which 14 tanks, formally copied from August 23 to September 4, unambiguously must be referred to the results of battle with the a company of Kolobanova.


Title: Re: Kolobanov Mission out
Post by: lockie on January 10, 2012, 04:42:45 PM
Translation of the mission started. I think soon english text will be ready ;)
(http://xmages.net/storage/10/1/0/4/b/thumb/thumb_baa9ecf8.jpg) (http://xmages.net/view.php/93359)


Title: Re: Kolobanov Mission out
Post by: frinik on January 10, 2012, 05:03:46 PM
I have it ready but I forgot my usb with it at the office.Tomorrow folks!Just be patient!


Title: Re: Kolobanov Mission out
Post by: lockie on January 12, 2012, 01:08:03 PM
Here's eng text for the mission:
http://www.4shared.com/rar/G8UZiQqs/kolobanov_eng_txt.html


Title: Re: Kolobanov Mission out
Post by: Txema on January 12, 2012, 01:50:06 PM
Thank you very much !!   :)


Txema


Title: Re: Kolobanov Mission out
Post by: lockie on November 15, 2012, 06:45:14 PM
Tried Kolobanov mission at the balance 5 and lost: gunsight, burrel, mgunner, driver, partly engine  ;D
(http://s5.postimage.org/kccu9v4b7/klbnv.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/kccu9v4b7/)
ps
Well, after patch UU applied my tank KV-1e (which I spent with Maleshkin more than 3 months) became a real piece of shit :) Config file was completely changed and name was took out.
Finally, I restored original KV-1e with rounded turret and put him in the mission, as it was before.


Title: Re: Kolobanov Mission out
Post by: frinik on November 16, 2012, 01:43:51 AM
Lockie could you post the KV-1e files.I'd like to have it back in the game too please!


Title: Re: Kolobanov Mission out
Post by: lockie on November 16, 2012, 02:11:55 AM
I'd like to have it back in the game too please!
It'll be included into november patch 2012 ;)


Title: Re: Kolobanov Mission out
Post by: Mistwalker on November 16, 2012, 02:46:59 PM
The KV with rounded turret is some fantasy tank that never existed even in projects. It has incorrect armor thickness too.
The new one is historically correct.


Title: Re: Kolobanov Mission out
Post by: lockie on November 16, 2012, 05:35:10 PM
The KV with rounded turret is some fantasy tank that never existed even in projects. It has incorrect armor thickness too.
The new one is historically correct.
OK, then why don't u place a new historical tank and create an appropriate mission for it with a polygon?
There is no need to replace and SPOIL existent tank, just add er personal unit and leave along what already done. I'm not obsessed with history and realism. SF is just a game for me. It's not a guidance to get info as for WWII.
At least, pay attention that somebody spent much efforts to put this tank in the game.

BTW
All my missions (except one) are fantastic. U don't like them, then don't play.


Title: Re: Kolobanov Mission out
Post by: frinik on November 16, 2012, 06:39:12 PM
I like your KV-1 with rounded turret Lockie :)! Odd because I am sure I saw pics of a KV-1 model with a turret similar to yours?Was it the KV-1C???


Title: Re: Kolobanov Mission out
Post by: Mistwalker on November 16, 2012, 07:07:41 PM
There is no need to replace and SPOIL existent tank, just add er personal unit and leave along what already done.
Yeah, I should've just named the new model "KV-1E" and the old one "alternate history KV-1". Will do that.

Odd because I am sure I saw pics of a KV-1 model with a turret similar to yours?Was it the KV-1C???
You prolly saw the KV with cast turret and ZIS-5, produced in 1942. That model never had screens and obviously it couldn't exist in times of Kolobanov mission.


Title: Re: Kolobanov Mission out
Post by: lockie on November 16, 2012, 07:14:43 PM
I like your KV-1 with rounded turret Lockie :)! Odd because I am sure I saw pics of a KV-1 model with a turret similar to yours?
Thank u :) There were two missions released exactly for this tank: Kovalkovo, Kolobanov and I think other users also made some missions on the base of it. Well, I don't mind about historic and other detailed stuff. It's quite normal way to add a new techniques in the game without replacing. Or at least, make a note to the author of the model or write it down in the readme.

Quote
Was it the KV-1C???
May be, do u mean KV-1s? As I know it was a very weak replica of KV-1. A soviet general doesn't care about soldiers life. I was shocked when I read that even in the autumn 44 and spring 45 a soviet tanks came to the army with a cracks on the turrets from 170 to 2200mm!


Title: Re: Kolobanov Mission out
Post by: lockie on November 16, 2012, 07:17:08 PM
Yeah, I should've just named the new model "KV-1E" and the old one "alternate history KV-1". Will do that.
See, it's easy money. Just pay a little attention to the other users.


Title: Re: Kolobanov Mission out
Post by: frinik on November 17, 2012, 02:49:42 AM
The pci said KV-1C but it could have been an error translating literally the Russian C which in fact is S in English?

Here's the link with pics showing rounded turret and it's called KV-1C??? http://www.google.co.in/search?q=kv1c+tank&hl=en&tbo=u&tbm=isch&source=univ&sa=X&ei=evumUIrqNYOQrgecm4GgAw&ved=0CEAQsAQ&biw=1600&bih=814


Title: Re: Kolobanov Mission out
Post by: lockie on November 17, 2012, 08:54:30 AM
The pci said KV-1C but it could have been an error translating literally the Russian C which in fact is S in English?
Here's the link with pics showing rounded turret and it's called KV-1C??? http://www.google.co.in/search?q=kv1c+tank&hl=en&tbo=u&tbm=isch&source=univ&sa=X&ei=evumUIrqNYOQrgecm4GgAw&ved=0CEAQsAQ&biw=1600&bih=814
I think it's my mistake. I made a wrong translation, but now I see what does KV-1c. Thank u for the impressive compilation of pictures!


Title: Re: Kolobanov Mission out
Post by: frinik on November 17, 2012, 12:42:22 PM
Mistwalker is right about the timeline that's a 1942 model and without the appliqué plates.However your model did exist It can be used for 1942 and beyond missions.You'd simply need to remove the Ekrannie and adjust the turret thickness as per historical data.


Title: Re: Kolobanov Mission out
Post by: lockie on November 17, 2012, 08:04:52 PM
Yes, all KV looks similar. I may say, that even IS-2 looks similar to KV chassis.

BTW
On the Kolobanov monument installed IS-2.
(http://www.glebychevo.narod.ru/images/kolob002.jpg)


Title: Re: Kolobanov Mission out
Post by: frinik on November 18, 2012, 02:28:25 AM
Anyway re the Kolobanov mission it's only a matter of replacing your tank with the appropriate model in the ME to have a " historically" correct mission for those craving accuracy....