GTOS December 2013 patch

[andrey12345]

Mius-Front early prototype of the tactical interface
https://twitter.com/graviteam/status/417001959384571904

Please tell me you don't have to click left/right to select different platoons...

Don't understand...
In game for selection used left click. Right click to cancel or send order. So it remains in GTMF.

[Santini]

[andrey12345]

"Sq" on your picture not squad but platoon.

"Sq2" point to squads of selected platoon.

[Santini]

Yeah, I said platoon, but drew squad for some reason

[andrey12345]

Yeah, I said platoon, but drew squad for some reason

So then what is the question about the click left/right consisted?

[Santini]

What I am asking:
Shouldn't there be a row of buttons for the different platoons over the row of buttons for the different squads

[Dane49]

So then what is the question about the click left/right consisted?

Scrolling!
That is way too many units per battle when you have to scroll to cycle through them all.

[andrey12345]

So then what is the question about the click left/right consisted?

Scrolling!
That is way too many units per battle when you have to scroll to cycle through them all.

Yes the same way as now in GTOS

[Dane49]

What I am asking:
Shouldn't there be a row of buttons for the different platoons over the row of buttons for the different squads

I think this new feature is for when you select a platoon unit the squad icons for that unit open up on the same line.
No more over under-Platoons up and squad under UI view.ss

[Dane49]

So then what is the question about the click left/right consisted?

Scrolling!
That is way too many units per battle when you have to scroll to cycle through them all.

Yes the same way as now in GTOS

I liked the Platoons over the squad look 

[Santini]

Yes the same way as now in GTOS

Good thing I didn't update, then

[andrey12345]

I liked the Platoons over the squad look 

In new minimalistic concept is little bit ugly. And mini map too 

In GTMF theoreticaly you can play with "interface on" in most time.


Old look:



asymmetrical and gets out of the linear form.

[Santini]

Looking in the files, I see that the Pz III L, N and flamm have a thickness of 50... ?

Shouldn't it be 70, because of the uparmoring plates?

[andrey12345]

Looking in the files, I see that the Pz III L, N and flamm have a thickness of 50... ?

Armor thikness coded in armor maps which compressed and compacted. Do you decompress them and look? 
Please tell me how to do this w/o format description.

Shouldn't it be 70, because of the uparmoring plates?

Pz III L,N with 70mm armor plates  seriously 

50+20 in this case absolutely not equal 70
Its not abstract math its an armor plates.

[Schuck]

Nice.
Interface looks the same, but different, if you know what i mean.
But can we have an option to enlarge or reduce it in size.
And would it be possible to have two keys, one to enable and one to disable the interface instead of having to toggle it?
Thanks.

[Santini]

Looking in the files, I see that the Pz III L, N and flamm have a thickness of 50... ?

Armor thikness coded in armor maps which compressed and compacted. Do you decompress them and look? 
Please tell me how to do this w/o format description.

Shouldn't it be 70, because of the uparmoring plates?

Pz III L,N with 70mm armor plates  seriously 

50+20 in this case absolutely not equal 70
Its not abstract math its an armor plates.

So, is the thickness of the reinforcement calculated seperately of the thickness of the underlying plate?

[Flashburn]

To last.  To actually look at the armor of a vehicle you need to look at the armor map.  Which apart from making a vehicle from scratch I do not think you can do that.  I do not remember.  LOL.  But I have made vehicles from square 1 for sabow.  The config entry represents the MAX armor of the plate or face in question.  A pz3 has addon on armor so its calculated this way.  The max armor is set to 50mm.  This tells the armor map that 100 percent white equals 50mm.  The tank and its model have the main turret and then spaced or added on armor.  So the turret face equals 50mm.  The added on plate equals 20mm.  Each one gets a penetration check and all that.   

If you looked at the armor map which is just a grey scale texture you would see white would be 100 percent and equal 50mm.  The back would be really dark grey and so forth.  So if you changed that 50mm entry to 70 or something now the rear of the tanks armor would end up equaling 40 mm of armor and the plates would now be equal to 28mm or something silly. 

[Lerch]

Just curious, but does anyone use the IR vision tool thing in GTOS?  I must confess I have never used or more importantly...ever bothered to look for whatever Key does it. 

Absolutely.  It is one of the best features in the game.  The camera can get closer to the ground than with the normal binoculars.  I even like the realistic option on.  I feel like I'm swimming around underwater.  Super immersion effect, claustrophobic. 

I play entire 3 hrs games sometimes with it on.  I have a paper print out of the map, mini-map off, using only the flag icons for references.  If we had a compass instead of the mini-map, then I would turn off the flag icons.

There is no hot key, unfortunately, for the IR.  I prefer to play with the UI also off, but lack of a hot key is an issue.

The effects are amazing: barrels glow hot, the impacts on tanks glow, tracks and engines heat up and cool down, and dead bodies slowly cool off.  It gives the game an strange, horror movie effect. 

[Dane49]

I thought about using it for the modern DLCs but didn't think it was appropriate for the WW2 ones.

[Lerch]

I thought about using it for the modern DLCs but didn't think it was appropriate for the WW2 ones.

I hope Graviteam never gets rid of it.

for me it adds to the immersion of the game.  The zoom level is not as high as the normal binoculars, but it is about right, and it is easier to spot units, so I don't use the unit icons.

It is also not very appropriate to have the map show unit locations in WW2.  Did they have GPS systems installed on everything?  I can understand when the unit icons are turned on, but when turned off, the map should be blank.  I have resorted to making a paper map.

Yes, I even laminated it.

I suggest anyone play a 3 hour game using a paper map in the IR view with the UI mostly turned off!  Also, keep the camera as close to the ground as possible for the entire game.  That really is what I like.  Flag icons help, but we really need a compass, though.