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English-speaking community => Graviteam Tactics: Operation Star => Topic started by: Bipman on March 30, 2014, 09:59:20 AM



Title: Map Icons
Post by: Bipman on March 30, 2014, 09:59:20 AM
Hello all again.

There are some map markings that are in the main manual but in my copy the descriptions are in Ukranian so I can't read them and Google translate doesn't work with it either.  Are there any English translations available ?

SPG


Title: Re: Map Icons
Post by: topnik on March 30, 2014, 11:58:49 AM
There should be an English manual somewhere in your game folder (although very outdated). You can also use in-game help. Which markings are that? Maybe if you post a screenshot, we'll be able to help.


Title: Re: Map Icons
Post by: andrey12345 on March 30, 2014, 02:27:34 PM
There are some map markings that are in the main manual but in my copy the descriptions are in Ukranian

What?  :o


Title: Re: Map Icons
Post by: Bipman on March 30, 2014, 06:16:39 PM
The manual is in English (version 2009.10.23) but parts are in Ukranian and I have managed to decipher them except page 52; some examples below  :-

(http://i.imgur.com/4iqQR89.jpg)

Any ideas ?

Bipman


Title: Re: Map Icons
Post by: lockie on March 30, 2014, 06:40:11 PM
The manual is in English (version 2009.10.23) but parts are in Ukranian and I have managed to decipher them except
Any ideas ?
Ok, I may try to translate, but not guarantee the equal content :)
1. hand MG (DG, MG-34)
2. stationary MG (Maxim)
3. hand AT rpg (GzB39)
4. anti-aircraft stationary MG
5. light flame-thrower (FmW-41)


Title: Re: Map Icons
Post by: Bipman on March 30, 2014, 06:50:31 PM
Thanks for the translation !  There are a quite a few others over 2 pages so if anyone has a translation of pages 52 and 53 in the game manual that would be great thanks !

Bipman


Title: Re: Map Icons
Post by: andrey12345 on March 30, 2014, 07:19:36 PM
The manual is in English (version 2009.10.23) but parts are in Ukranian and I have managed to decipher them except page 52; some examples below  :-

(http://i.imgur.com/4iqQR89.jpg)

Any ideas ?

Its Russian at first.
Try last patch (dec13a) and use manual (2011.12.17) from it.

You can simply unpack it w/o install (its a ZIP archive) and see at CORE\!sys_upd\docs\support\tactics_manual.pdf
http://www.graviteam.com/AP-STAR/gtos_patch_dec13a_eng.gt2extension


Title: Re: Map Icons
Post by: lockie on March 30, 2014, 07:33:44 PM
Thanks for the translation !
U're welcome :)

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There are a quite a few others over 2 pages so if anyone has a translation of pages 52 and 53 in the game manual that would be great thanks!
I may try, but my English is awful :) Anyway, enclose the required text and we shall see ;)


Title: Re: Map Icons
Post by: topnik on March 30, 2014, 09:20:48 PM
I don't speak Russian, but I can understand a bit, especially in written form, despite cyrillic  ;D.
So I'll give it a try. It's probably not 100% correct, but hopefully someone will correct the mistakes.


(http://i.imgur.com/jqwvE5g.jpg)


Title: Re: Map Icons
Post by: FB_AGA on March 30, 2014, 09:46:09 PM
РСЗО  = MLRS

Блиндаж, эскарп = blindage, scarp

Проволочное заграждение = wire entanglement



Title: Re: Map Icons
Post by: Flashburn on March 30, 2014, 10:38:11 PM
Most of the symbols are standard Soviet/Warsaw pact icons.  Many are nearly the same as NATO sorts.  Probably all came out of some French field manual from 1900 and evolved away from each other.  I say such as all the gun, at gun sorts are the same or nearly the same for Nato or at least US.  Oddly the ww2 German ones are Greek to me. 


Title: Re: Map Icons
Post by: Bipman on March 31, 2014, 06:10:23 AM
Thanks to everyone for their help !  Now I Know what I am looking at.  I did open the Dec13 patch but the manual text for these items is still in Ukrainian.

Bipman


Title: Re: Map Icons
Post by: davidx on May 22, 2015, 02:39:42 PM
Hello,

A good document for USSR symbols in english written by US DOD, that has assisted me is:

"Handbook on USSR Military Forces, Chapter XII: Maps, Conventional Sign, and Symbols" from 1946.

A pdf version is located in the DigitalCommons@University of Nebraska - Lincoln library with the link: http://digitalcommons.unl.edu/dodmilintel (http://digitalcommons.unl.edu/dodmilintel)
Move down to the year 1946.

regards,




Title: Re: Map Icons
Post by: Krabb on May 22, 2015, 02:48:59 PM
Just use the wiki: http://gravitac.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Platoon_types


Title: Re: Map Icons
Post by: davidx on May 25, 2015, 06:57:38 PM
Hello,

that link does summarize the tactical symbols nicely. My interest is also the operational symbols used in the briefing. I would like to create some operational variations of the demo/default operation, and would like to use the briefing stencils/symbols, appropriately.  I have some from references, and some by extrapolation, from its using. Is there something similar for the operational briefing symbols?

regards,


Title: Re: Map Icons
Post by: Krabb on May 26, 2015, 12:28:41 PM
But these are operational phase symbols! I'm not sure I understand what symbols you are talking about. Could you give an example picture, please?


Title: Re: Map Icons
Post by: davidx on May 28, 2015, 10:23:57 PM
Hello,

specifically the symbols used in the briefing graphics for operations, example:

from "Operation Editor Manual Ver. 2012.06.07",
Pic. 1.4 Interface of Draw graphic editor,
Lowest left pane/window


regards,
 


Title: Re: Map Icons
Post by: Krabb on May 29, 2015, 02:01:55 PM
These are the same Red Army tactical symbols as on the wiki. Handbook on USSR Military Forces has these, too.