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Kyth
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« Reply #100 on: October 27, 2011, 07:12:31 AM »

O n the Oder and hunagry?Are you sure Kyth?

No confirmed evidence  Undecided just mentioned in passing, so it's possible they were misidentified.

Also, established units with the Jagdtiger were mainly deployed to the Western Front,
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« Reply #101 on: October 27, 2011, 08:29:55 AM »

Donken try this link.It's a Carl Zeiss Jena link.They have good and detailed pics of it.Apparently was still used by the Nationale VolksArmee until the 1990shttp://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=scherenfernrohr%20sf14&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBoQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fhome.arcor.de%2Fthuernagel%2Fsf14-e.htm&ei=3xOpTqbXKo3jrAeMnOnoCw&usg=AFQjCNEMAFn4WpM3sWwudaMDP6OKvvsTcg

BTW the longest homologated tank-to-to-tank kill ever recorded is by a British Challenger II equipped with a Rheinmetall 120 mm L/55 gun( incidentally the same company that made the Kwk43 L/71 taking out an Iraqi T72 at 3658 metres in 2003.And this is with on board computer and all the electronic gizmos that modern MBTs come with not to mention shells that can punch through 800 mm of armour!

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« Reply #102 on: October 27, 2011, 09:36:40 AM »

But was the JT ever deployed on the East front?
4 vehicles at the beginning of May (antitank unit 653), but they haven't seen combat and surrendered soon. 2 at the same time in SS Panzer-Abteilung 101 - one lost tracks during march and one was blown up to barricade the road to soviet tanks. 1 vehicle in panzer kompanie "Kummersdorf" at the beginning of April  - that one could've seen battle. Someone said about 9 vehicles from 512 unit in Austria at the beginning of May too but I haven't found any evidence about that.
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« Reply #103 on: October 27, 2011, 10:28:36 AM »

BTW the longest homologated tank-to-to-tank kill ever recorded is by a British Challenger II equipped with a Rheinmetall 120 mm L/55 gun( incidentally the same company that made the Kwk43 L/71 taking out an Iraqi T72 at 3658 metres in 2003.And this is with on board computer and all the electronic gizmos that modern MBTs come with not to mention shells that can punch through 800 mm of armour!

Now you are talking about stuff i dont know so much, but you are probably right.

But im pretty shure that everyone thinks the longest kill is the 5.1km kill from a Challenger against a static T-62 Tongue Homologated or not, Still impressive.
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« Reply #104 on: October 27, 2011, 12:04:44 PM »

Here's another picture JT vs a teddy bear insignia Smiley

It belongs to schwere Panzerjaeger-Abteilung 512, book "Last of the Panzers, German Tanks 1944-1945" by William Auerbach (1984).
Also I saw a picture where was an additional MG/MP(bent barrel?) installed on the JT turret.
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« Reply #105 on: October 27, 2011, 12:52:53 PM »

According to "Armored Battles of the Waffen SS", the Germans employed a platoon of 6 Jagdtigers in Czechoslovakia. 2 were knocked out and 3 ran out of fuel as they fought their way to the the Elbe with a PanzerGrenadier company.
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« Reply #106 on: October 27, 2011, 01:08:30 PM »

Did they inflict any casualties while losing 2 JTs?
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« Reply #107 on: October 27, 2011, 02:30:43 PM »

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« Reply #108 on: October 27, 2011, 02:47:06 PM »

That explains the pic posted by Lockie on October 22 of a Jagdtiger with a teddy bear on it! It actually was the symbol or mascot of the unit¨" A black, sitting teddy bear with a silvery outline.BUIt the Teddy Bear on Lockie´s pic was red rather than black.
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« Reply #109 on: October 27, 2011, 03:39:24 PM »

Here we're vs teddy Smiley


And one more thing, i found info about the commander sight. it was a sight called S.F.14.Z (scissor periscope) it is a sight used by the artillery crews.
I think it should look like this, but I don't have any idea what this reticle does Smiley
http://germanmilitaryoptics.wordpress.com/chapter-ii-scherenfernrohrs-sf-ii-technical-description-and-uses/

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« Reply #110 on: October 27, 2011, 09:16:36 PM »

Did they inflict any casualties while losing 2 JTs?

Quite a few, from what I understand, though it was a running battle and therefore lacked the standard "hold at all costs, many Ivan's killed" routine of the Eastern Front. I believe one was knocked out by a Russian aircraft and the other by Czech insurgents. The three who ran out of gas or mechanically broke down were scuttled by their crews, who continued on foot.

The entry is very limited, so I don't have all the gritty details.
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« Reply #111 on: October 28, 2011, 06:28:37 AM »



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« Reply #112 on: October 28, 2011, 04:33:32 PM »

Thanks murkz for reticle. I think it's possible to draw it and somehow use as a spare device to the main gunsight(in case if it damaged).
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« Reply #113 on: October 28, 2011, 04:43:12 PM »





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« Reply #114 on: October 28, 2011, 05:01:25 PM »

As I've understood the dimension mils is 10. There's a gap at the middle of reticle, suppose it's 4mils, so it's possible to shoot at the distance 700-800m. There's one problem how to attach it correctly as a commander sight.
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« Reply #115 on: October 28, 2011, 11:57:25 PM »

As I've understood the dimension mils is 10. There's a gap at the middle of reticle, suppose it's 4mils, so it's possible to shoot at the distance 700-800m. There's one problem how to attach it correctly as a commander sight.

If i got the sight i have an idea of making a "fake" turret that can popup for the sight only. So it should be possible and pretty easy.
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« Reply #116 on: October 29, 2011, 09:01:19 AM »

If i got the sight i have an idea of making a "fake" turret that can popup for the sight only.
OK, I'll draw the new commander reticle.

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First try. I had to decrease a mils dimension to "16", coz I don't see any use of sight in original dimension.
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« Reply #117 on: November 05, 2011, 04:06:32 PM »

I'm really shocked - 46 hits at my spg and still alive! I lose only when I was out of ammo Smiley


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« Reply #118 on: November 05, 2011, 04:42:27 PM »

I'm really shocked - 46 hits at my spg and still alive! I lose only when I was out of ammo Smiley



wow hehe. But i think i should nerf the side armor a little bit, those two shots should have penetrated the side i think. Hard to see the angle on the picture thou.

But the new model and armor map i sent you works well lockie? Still problems with the shottrap that shouldnt be there?
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« Reply #119 on: November 05, 2011, 06:53:58 PM »

wow hehe. But i think i should nerf the side armor a little bit, those two shots should have penetrated the side i think. Hard to see the angle on the picture thou.
No need. It works - PERFECT!

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But the new model and armor map i sent you works well lockie?
It works completely - out of mind! I did a bit adjustment - decreased a bit of "p_rotgun" size and some else and... u can see result! Of course, it's my best achievement Wink U still've a choice to get a shot by the game glitch, but it's VERY seldom.

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Still problems with the shottrap that shouldnt be there?
Don't be bothered, model works PERFECTLY! THANK YOU!
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